ADVICE
- Where to get performance parts...
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[Editorial note: This is an imcomplete listing places where
list members have ordered performance parts from..]
Vendor's Name |
Phone |
Type of parts |
Nissan Motorsports (NISMO) |
310-538-2610 |
Various parts |
Strano Performance Parts |
800.729.1831 |
We can do about 500 product lines, all kinds of parts for all cars and
trucks, not just Nissans. I don't really have a list of parts, but I can
give you a pretty good idea of the things I can do for the cars.
Remember this isn't everything, but it's the big stuff.
- Exhaust: Borla, HKS, Trust, Dynomax, Bosal (lifetime warranty OE repalcement)
- K&N Filters
- Tokico, KYB, Sachs/Boge, Bilstein, GAB, Koni (and I can get the american junkers too, but why)
- Bosch, NGK ignition parts
- Repco, Hawk, Porterfield
- Redline oils
- Centerforce Clutches
- Suspension Techniques sway bars and springs
- Eibach sway bars and springs
- Tokico springs
- Hotshot Headers and intakes
- Brake rotors (sometimes Brembo, but always a name brand piece)
- Remanufactured calipers
- Complete line of Original Equipment replacement parts
I guess that's the big stuff, if there is something you are after,
but don't see give me a call and I'll see what I can do. Ask for
Sam Jr.
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Stillen |
800.221.6234 |
varied |
Jim Wolf Technologies |
619.442.0680 |
ECU, intakes, cams, pressure plates |
Brake Wharehouse (Florida) |
800.321.6926 |
brakes, duh |
- I am a college kid that knows nothing about cars but am
interesting in simple ways to increase hp/performance on my
SE-R.
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Merlin Johnson (d...@connectnet.com)
The easiest and fairly inexpensive mods are a Stillen exhuast, and
Stillen Hi-Flow intake, those should be good for around 10hp....IMO
the Stillen hp figures are overrated. You could put both of these
pieces on in a afternoon with hand tools. You will notice a nice
difference. After that and mods jump way up in price.
For good street performance and comfort, go with a shock/spring
combination like Tokico/Eibach, Tokico/Tokico, or Tokico/Suspension
Techniques. Unless you want the show look stay away from the Eibach
Sportline springs.
D. Eric Anderson (e...@vt.edu)
Generally the first mods that get done are to the breathing of the
car. Specifically, the exhaust and intake. I just bought the
Stillen hi-flow exhaust and POP intake air filter, shipped for
under $400. I haven't even gotten them on yet :(. Anyway, from
there usually the computer gets the upgrade nod, sometimes with the
throttle body. This is the order that the Stillen catalog lists,
and I generally agree with it. The other mods like headers and
cams aren't very common... yet! They generally should come last
anyway.
For handling, it's generally accepted that everything pretty well
gets done at once. But, the most important part seems to be to the
the springs and shocks first, and at the same time.
- I have a few concerns about these add-ons, and I was hoping
that some of you could address these issues before I took the
plunge. Durability: Will these modifications change the expected life
of my car? My is over 100k miles, almost all highway miles and the
car's well cared for and running like new, but miles are miles.
Should I think twice before trying to coax more power from my engine?
Emissions/ Legality: Are all of these modifications legal in all
states? Are they likely to remain so? I'll pass inspection,
right?
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Merlin Johnson (d...@connectnet.com)
Those addons should do nothing to hurt your durability or gas
mileage (depending on your right foot of course). The mods won't
change the life of your car. I have had my add ons for 50k miles,
not a peep from the car as far as complaints. I have not seen
anything start to go wrong that wasn't or isn't a problem with all
our cars.
Right now the POP charger from Jim Wolf (I dont think the Stillen
one, even though they are exactly the same) has a CARB exemption
number. To my knowledge nothing else does. You will pass CA
emissions with the POP, ECU, TB, Exhaust. The only time you might
be putting out more stuff is at WOT. The Headers will pass the
sniffer test, not really any different than stock. They will not
pass Ca visual, or cold start. Having the headers (and I have
noticed the car is a bit pickier, hesitant when cold) doesnt let
the cat get up to temperature quick enough. No header I dont think
can pass the new cold start tests, too much heat escapes through
the tubes for that.
- I would like to know if anyone here has had any problems
with dealers complaining about aftermarket performance products being
used on our cars. Anybody ever have warranty work reefused because of
performance mods?
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Wayne Cox (w...@erinet.com)
As I understand it, legally they have to be able to prove the mod
contributed to the problem. They also cannot dictate that you must
use factory replacement parts for wear items, as long as an
aftermarket replacement conforms to the original design it's ok.
So suspension parts and wheels are no problem. The ECU would never
be noticed unless they had need to take it out. But I think any
mods to the air intake system, or internal engine parts could be a
trouble spot. It'd be easy to say that the parts let dirt in
and/or made the engine run lean, thus contributing to your scored
cylinders/spun rod bearings/holes in pistons, etc.
When I was still concerned about warranty, I always put the air box
back in place of the POP. When I was trying to get my
mileage/power problem fixed I put the muffler back on too, just to
eliminate variables they could point at.
Once I took it in for a noise in the front end with the exhaust
system installed. Mechanic said he couldn't hear anything over the
exhaust, and the noise might be muffler hitting heat shield. D'oh!
It's in the *front* you jerk. Oh well, it went away on its own a
few months later.
- On dealing with performance muffler noise...
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Matthew A. Trostel (0...@mcimail.com)
I put a Stillen muffler on a couple weeks ago. It was a little
louder than I expected, too. After installing it, I thought about
how to reduce the noise a little. I decided to take a few
measurements before I started experimenting. I drove to an open
parking lot and made sound measurements with an SPL meter at
various RPM's. I also measured the peak level during a second
gear, full throttle, idle to 6000 RPM run.
Since then, I purchased a sheet of Dynamat Super and put it on the
floor of the trunk directly over the muffler. It covers the entire
passenger side of the trunk floor not including the spare tire
well. The difference is dramatic. I haven't gotten around to
taking another set of measurements but it made a noticeable
difference. It is louder than the stock muffler was, but a good
deal quieter than the Stillen before the Dynamat. I am VERY
pleased. It's still quite a bit louder than stock under moderate
and heavy acceleration but if you aren't pushing it, it's fairly
unobtrusive. Cruising at 75 mph is a little loud, but this is a
Nissan Sentra, not a Lexus LS400. When I get motivated to take
another set of SPL measurements, I'll post the results.
Matthew A. Trostel (0...@mcimail.com)
After installing the Stillen muffler I made some SPL (Sound
Pressure Level) measurements. Since making the original
measurements, I have installed a sheet of Dynamat Super on the
passenger side of the trunk floor, directly over the muffler. I
also put a sheet of Original Dynamat on the plastic piece that fits
vertically behind the back seat (in the trunk).
I used a Tenma digital SPL meter to take the measurements. All
decibel readings are C-weighted (almost flat) and were obtained by
taking the max reading at the drivers seat with the windows and
sunroof closed. Below is the before and after SPL data.
Engine Speed (RPM) | SPL before Dynamat (dB) | SPL after Dynamat (dB) | Difference (dB) |
Idle ~750 | 91.2 | 87.2 | -4.0 |
1500 | 89.4 | 87.1 | -2.3 |
2000 | 90.8 | 88.0 | -2.8 |
2500 | 78.4 | 76.6 | -1.8 |
3000 | 89.9 | 87.3 | -2.6 |
3500 | 91.4 | 89.6 | -1.8 |
4000 | 97.0 | 96.0 | -1.0 |
5000 | 90.0 | 85.0 | -5.0 |
Full throttle 2nd gear run from idle to 6000 RPM | 111.9 | 108.5 | -3.4 |
I wanted to note that the car mags usually measure sound using
A-weighting instead of the C-weighting I used. I could have/should
have used A-weighting but I had already taken the before
measurements when I noticed. Don't panic because all the car mags
have 70 and 80 dB measurements. Regardless of the weighting type,
the differences between before and after measurements will be the
same. These differences are also given in the table.
Wayne Cox (w...@erinet.com)
3dB is half the sound energy while 10dB is half the perceived sound
pressure. Very impressive reduction, nevertheless, and I'll be
rushing out to buy some! I know I've seen it in Crutchfield.
Dan Thompson (d...@adelphia.net)
Instead of using Dynamat, I got some generic stuff called Sound
Deadener Pad (original, huh?) from MCM Electronics in Ohio. It costs
$1.25 to $1.50 per square foot instead of the $3.50 to $5.50 of the
Dynamat. It may not work as wall as the Dynamat, but for the same
money I can covered the entire trunk floor (and then some).
MCM Electronics: (800) 543-4330
Use the 29"x32" pads (part no. 60-2015; $7.99 ea.). They are easier
to work with and cost the least per square foot.
Bryant Woo (G...@aol.com)
I ordered 3 29"x32" sheets of imitation dynamat from MCM electronics.
Anyways, I lined the trunk (with a little less than 2 sheets) this
weekend, including the spare tire compartment.
The initial results? It works! It's been raining a lot lately
in california, and the first thing I noticed was that there's
a lot less water splashing sound and road noise coming
from the back of the car. I don't have an exhaust yet, but
soon. I'll also line what's underneath the backseat.
I'd highly recommend this very inexpensive "add-on" for
anyone who feels their exhaust is too loud.
Just as a note, each 29" x 32" sheet weighs about 5 lbs.
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